# Conference – 1997 Discussion

##
1. David E.
Lindsey^{[*]}

I am pleased to discuss the paper on interest-rate smoothing by Lowe and Ellis. The authors have produced a paper notable for its insightful design and thoughtful execution. This paper, together with the companion piece by de Brouwer and O'Regan, represents frontier research on the issues currently being investigated, and with the advanced techniques currently being applied, in academia as well as by staff at the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. Indeed, some of my comments are intended to compare the results of the most recent of this work in the United States with results presented at this conference.

The bulk of my comments will be directed to the fourth section of the paper, which reports on econometric model simulations. As for the fifth section, I agree with the authors' balanced interpretation of the empirical evidence on whether the effects of interest-rate changes on consumer sentiment are linear and on whether interest-rate reversals have a greater impact on bond yields than equal-sized continued changes in the same direction. Also, their discussion on communication issues is useful.

Turning to their main model-simulation results, Figure 2 and Table 3 show the effects of varying the weights on the output gap, the inflation gap, and the change in the official interest rate in the policy-maker's loss function. This optimal-control exercise suggests that some degree of interest-rate smoothing can be introduced at little initial cost in terms of enlarged deviations of output and inflation from target values.

This specific loss function, which penalises variation in the official interest rate
as well as inflation and output gaps, has become standard and well captures
the evident preferences of central banks to smooth official interest rates.
I will appeal later to just such a loss function to rationalise my proposal
to respecify the backward-looking Taylor rule in a way that also can well describe
actual central bank behaviour. However, worth noting at the outset is that
the theoretical justification for penalising the change in the official short-term
*nominal* interest rate in the loss function is not so clear. In terms
of effects on either financial or real behaviour, why should it not instead
be the change in the short *real* rate that enters the loss function?
To be sure, as a practical matter, these nominal and real rates are highly
correlated in the short run. Perhaps the evident concern of central banks for
smoothing the nominal – rather than real – short rate is simply
because that is the rate central banks target, and quite visibly so.

The optimal control exercise presented by Lowe and Ellis is precisely the procedure that Blinder (1997), the previous Vice Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, advocates for practical policy-making: that is, the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) at each meeting should work out not only the optimal current setting for the federal funds rate, but also the currently estimated optimal planned path for that rate over an extended horizon, with both based on an explicit long-term macroeconomic forecast. Then, at the next meeting, the whole procedure should be updated reflecting new information. He criticises the FOMC for not in fact determining an optimal plan for the funds rate and for not considering a forecast extending far enough into the future.

As well exemplified by the present paper by Lowe and Ellis, the optimal-control exercise is a very productive technique for researchers to apply in addressing certain subjects. However, as a framework for actual policy-making, in my view it has fatal shortcomings. In the eyes of a practical policy-maker, the prescribed setting of the nominal short rate that is generated by the optimal-control exercise has the appearance of coming out of a ‘black box’. Explaining to men and women of affairs the rationale for a given optimal setting of the short rate is difficult. This is precisely why using approximations such as Taylor-type rules as policy guideposts has gained in popularity. This consideration is why the appearance of the efficient Taylor-rule frontier on Figure 2 of the Lowe and Ellis paper is welcome. Knowing how good a job the backward-looking Taylor rules can do compared with optimal policy-making is of considerable interest.

The prescribed interest rate derived from a backward-looking Taylor rule has a transparency, and a plausible rationale, that the one coming from a complicated optimal-control exercise inherently lacks. This transparent character also applies to forward-looking Taylor rules that rely on forecasted rather than observed output and inflation gaps to derive the prescribed short rate. Such simple rules can incorporate the complicated, resource-intensive effort central banks actually undertake in constructing macroeconomic forecasts. So the question becomes how well can forward-looking Taylor rules do in model simulations relative both to backward-looking Taylor rules and to optimal policy? The results for forward-looking Taylor rules are shown in the paper by de Brouwer and O'Regan. In addition, Lowe and Ellis use their loss function, which penalises interest-rate variation, to assess the simulated performance of a variety of these forward-looking Taylor rules.

This observation brings me to some suggestions for extensions of this type of experiment in the next stage of research by the authors of these two companion papers. First, calculating the results of forward-looking Taylor rules based on model forecasts that are consistent with the actual implementation of those rules themselves could be worthwhile. That is, each rule could be appended to the model and then all the equations of the expanded model could be solved simultaneously.

Second, a nominal short rate lagged one period with its own coefficient could be
added to the specification of each forward-looking Taylor rule
examined.^{[1]}
This additional term could allow the researcher to vary a coefficient that
directly captures the degree of interest-rate smoothing in a manner analogous
to the initial investigation by Lowe and Ellis of the effects of varying the
coefficient on the change in the nominal rate in the loss function. For example,
one could examine forward-looking Taylor rules with substantial long-run responses
to the forecasted inflation and output gaps but with a relatively large coefficient
on the lagged interest rate, making policy reactions relatively unresponsive
– and hence interest rates relatively smooth – in the short run.

Such a specification can be derived from a simple theoretical model with a conveniently
chosen lag
structure.^{[2]}
In such a model, the multi-period loss function used by Lowe and Ellis collapses
into a single-period expression for the loss whose first-order condition for
minimisation can be expressed as a forward-looking Taylor rule with a lagged
dependent variable.

Specifically, the lag structure in each of the two equations in the model examined in Ball (1997) can be adjusted by no more than one period to obtain this result. First, lengthen the lag in the effect of the real interest rate on the output gap in his dynamic IS curve to derive

where *gap* = and *a _{2}*
are known positive parameters with

*a*less than 1; and

_{2}*e*is a random error term. Next, shorten the lag in the effect of the output gap on the rate of inflation in his accelerationist Phillips curve to derive

where *b* is a known parameter and *u* is a random error term.

Because the nominal official interest rate, *i _{t}*, in this model specification directly affects

*only*π

*and*

_{t+2}*gap*, the loss function considered by Lowe and Ellis in effect collapses to

_{t+2}

where *f* stands for the central bank's forecast.

Substituting Equations (1) and (2) into (3), differentiating with respect to *i _{t}*, setting the result equal to zero, and solving for

*i*yields a forward-looking Taylor rule that includes a one-period lag on the

_{t}*i*term,

_{t}

where these coefficients incorporate all the parameters in Equations (1), (2) and
(3). They are positive, with *ρ* less than 1. In other words, in such a simple model, the optimal
policy setting would correspond exactly to a Taylor rule based on the central
bank's one-period-ahead forecasts of both inflation and the output gap
and on the lagged value of the official rate.

To be sure, this specific, simple lag structure does not characterise either the ‘real world’ or the econometric model of Australia simulated in these two companion papers. But extensions along these lines of the experiments conducted in the papers by de Brouwer and O'Regan and by Lowe and Ellis would be valuable because they could show just how closely different forward-looking Taylor rules embodying interest-rate smoothing could approximate optimal policy in model simulations.

This brings me back to the basic issue of interest-rate smoothing. Following the
classic analysis of Brainard (1967), as re-emphasised by Blinder (1995), ‘multiplier’
uncertainty about the impact of a policy action on the economy could justify
the kind of policy-maker caution that is embodied in the interest-rate smoothing
behaviour we have been discussing. However, uncertainty about the exact location
of the non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment (NAIRU), and thus of
potential output, which has been so much discussed in the US media of late,
ironically is the kind of additive uncertainty that in theory would not induce
partial adjustment of the policy rate with a quadratic loss function as assumed
in Equation (3). Instead, if there were no uncertainty about the parameters
*a _{1}*,

*a*and

_{2}*b*in Equations (1) and (2) above, the policy-maker could impound the terms involving potential output, and , into the intercepts of Equations (1) and (2), respectively, indicating that mis-estimates of the values of potential output represent additive errors. Thus, the policy-maker would simply use the best possible available estimate of potential output for calculating and forecasting the output gap in Equations (1) and (2), and proceed to solve for the optimal official rate with no support at all from Brainard for smoothing interest rates. On the basis of this type of macro-analytics, I infer that what underlies the penchant for interest-rate smoothing by the world's central banks must be either uncertainty about the behavioural parameters of the economy's structural equations or other reasons – perhaps those related to communication and accountability discussed by Lowe and Ellis.

I would now like to strike a bit of a discouraging note, not about this excellent
paper's analysis of monetary-policy rules incorporating interest-rate smoothing
*per se*, but rather about the prospects for getting definitive
results from the massive worldwide research effort of which this paper is a
part. My perspective stems partly from the model-specific nature of the results
presented, which Lowe and Ellis readily acknowledge. It also stems partly from
the widely differing results Williams (1997) recently has obtained from simulations
of the Federal Reserve Board's newly installed large-scale US macroeconomic
model, depending on whether he assumes that the public has adaptive or rational
expectations.^{[3]}

Williams shows that in models with adaptive expectations, an interest-rate-change
rule, in which the coefficient on the lagged interest rate is 1, performs relatively
poorly, a result also uncovered by de Brouwer and O'Regan in their Australian
model simulations. Similarly, pure price-level rules also perform relatively
poorly in both studies, as do rules tied to nominal
income.^{[4]}

These results are essentially overturned in Williams' (1997) simulations of the
large-scale model with gradual adjustment of the inflation rate but with rational
expectations on the part of the public that incorporate all the behavioural
equations in the model, including the policy rule. Although switching from
adaptive to rational expectations should change the results somewhat, as was
previewed in the tests of credibility effects in wage setting by de Brouwer
and O'Regan, the reversal of relative rankings in Williams' 1997 paper
came as a surprise to me. He finds that interest-rate-change rules, even when
applied to pure price-level or nominal-GDP-level targets, not only come much
closer to the frontier measuring the variation of inflation and output gaps
than do conventional rules involving the interest-rate level, but they also
do so with much less variation in interest rates than those conventional
rules.^{[5]}

He also shows that the coefficients of these rules can be adjusted to smooth interest
rates even further at very little cost in terms of the movement away from the
inflation/output variability
frontier.^{[6]}
This conclusion about the low cost of interest-rate smoothing for nearly optimal
policies in the context of a large-scale US model assuming rational expectations
is a tantalising echo of the primary results found by Lowe and Ellis in a smaller
model of the Australian economy that embodies adaptive expectations. On that
crucial point of agreement, I can reach the following conclusion: once central
banks around the world determine how their economies really work and how to
structure appropriately their basic reaction to economic developments, then
they certainly can smooth interest rates somewhat as their reward!

## Footnotes

The views presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System or other members of its staff. [*]

Forward-looking Taylor rules with a one-period lag on the dependent variable were successfully estimated using regression analysis by Clarida, Gali, and Gertler (1997a) for the United States, and Clarida, Gali, and Gertler (1997b) for Germany, the United States, and Japan. Tetlow and von zur Muehlen (1996) simulate a backward-looking Taylor rule with a one-period lag on the dependent variable in a small US model with rational expectations. [1]

I am indebted to Athanasios Orphanides for this analysis. [2]

This model is described in Brayton and Tinsley (1996), Brayton, Levin, Tyron and Williams (1997), and Brayton, Mauskopf, Reifschneider, Tinsley and Williams (1997). [3]

Ball (1997) recently has stressed the problem of cycles for nominal-GDP rules in
models with adaptive expectations, which is reminiscent of the warning of
Anderson and Enzler (1987) about *k*-per cent money-growth rules in models with adaptive expectations.
[4]

This result is intriguing given the potential in rational expectations models for the public in effect to perceive a policy with excessive interest-rate smoothing as likely to fall ‘behind the curve’, so that the public's model-consistent expectations in principle could contribute to cyclical instabilities. [5]

Williams also finds that a Henderson-McKibbin (1993) variant of a backward-looking
Taylor rule – with coefficients of 1 and 2 on the lagged inflation
and output gaps, respectively, as opposed to Taylor's 0.5 and 0.5 –
comes much closer to the inflation gap/output gap variability frontier than
does the Taylor rule with either rational or adaptive expectations. This
Henderson-McKibbin rule in both cases, however, exhibits noticeably more
interest-rate volatility. This Henderson-McKibbin rule also outperforms the
Taylor rule starting from a steady state in Levin (1996) in simulations of
the Federal Reserve Board's large-scale multi-country model with either
adaptive or rational expectations, and in Orphanides *et al*. (1997) in simulations of a small model with rational
expectations. The last article also uses stochastic simulations to evaluate
the ‘opportunistic’ approach to attaining price stability, as
discussed in Orphanides and Wilcox (1996).
[6]

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## 2. General Discussion

The rationale for interest-rate smoothing was the main topic of discussion.

While most participants thought that frequent and large changes in interest rates were undesirable, this view was not shared universally. There was also no agreement as to why smoothing was justified. While variability in inflation and output have social costs, and so are clearly of concern to central banks, the social costs of interest-rate volatility – and hence the reason(s) why interest-rate changes should be in the central bank's loss function – are much less clear. A number of participants suggested that if volatility in official interest rates is costly, then these costs should be included in the model of the economy, rather than simply included in the central bank's loss function. It was argued that this approach might also allow empirical work to examine whether these costs actually exist.

It was noted that, to date, there had been few serious attempts to model these costs.
Like this paper, most modelling work around the world suggests that interest
rates should be changed by larger amounts, and more often, than occurs in practice.
A number of participants agreed that frequent changes in the *direction* of interest rates were costly and that this provides a partial
explanation for smoothing. Financial markets look to central banks for guidance
about the path of the economy, and this guidance may be lost if central banks
were frequently reversing the direction of interest-rate changes. Frequent
changes in the direction of policy may also lead people to think that the central
bank had ‘lost the plot’, although on this subject there was a
variety of opinion. Some appealed to the Lucas critique, arguing that if the
policy regime changed and people understood the change, then expectations as
to what constituted ‘normal’ central bank behaviour would also
change, eliminating the costs of volatility. In response, others argued that
regardless of whether or not financial-markets participants understood the
central bank's operating procedures, considerable interest-rate volatility
would have adverse consequences for business investment and consumer confidence.

The discussion highlighted that judgments regarding the optimal size of interest-rate changes are complicated by the difficulties in calibrating the effects of changes in official interest rates on financial prices and the economy in general. One participant recalled the 1994 experience in the United States, where a small rise in short-term interest rates induced large movements in long-term yields. Similarly, econometric analysis identifies an ‘average’ effect of policy on activity and inflation, but economists and policy-makers do not think that the economy responds the same way to each change in interest rates.

Discussion of interest-rate smoothing raised a number of other issues for further consideration. Does smoothing of official interest rates mean that the exchange rate is more variable? Should policy aim at smoothing nominal or real interest rates? Would greater volatility in short-term interest rates imply greater volatility in longer-term interest rates, and which of these is more costly? Should policy-makers be concerned about the greater persistence of inflation and business cycles that is induced by interest-rate smoothing?